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[dior_couture1245]

They're not exactly unaccountable, you can say 'oh it's the PC police that's destroying everything!' but that will never explain how big houses have solidified their power while independent designers (and thinkers- those who understood fashion and knew how to challenge it to make it better) have vanished.

Nothing makes sense until you realize that PC Culture and Corporate Culture are players on the same team, working to the same ends.

 

[MulletProof]

^ absolutely!

 

[dontbeadrag]

ha you're not wrong by any means, but you'll always find people like me who do think some genetics are controversial or just.. hilarious.

Well, I guess I am sorry that nature gave me a way to stay skinny, or whatever, lol.
I never said I eat a grape a day, I eat enough not to be hungry and work out 3x a week to stay where I am. This is what is healthy. Some people have fast metabolism, within the norm, and skinny is not always anorexic.
However, obesity and overweight have never been healthy. As said above - big can be, but not fat.

If any culture has no standards for self-regulation and self-improvement - I’d be gladly banished from that culture.

 

[MulletProof]

Well, I guess I am sorry that nature gave me a way to stay skinny, or whatever, lol.

it’s not nature, just your very healthy choices. Nature and good genetics is being able to eat whatever you want knowing you’ll never look like a grape.

I agree btw, self regulation!

 

[Phuel]

Absolutely cannot deny genetics nor your opinion of it since that’s your area of expertise, Mullet: Some are simply predisposed to a certain body mass that has the unfortunate DNA makeup that leads to obesity. Going back to just 30-40 years ago, people were overweight beyond just “chubby"— but not to such morbid-obesity as is sadly becoming more and more common nowadays. People have got to take some responsibility/accountability for their own choices, even if their genes won’t give them the metabolism of an Olympian. (And if for whatever reason, some enjoy being overweight— then fine, your life to live. Just don’t make these snide remarks like “Who’s that made for?” like there aren’t any thin people whom could wear it-- and wear its well.)

I remember reading that Greg Louganis said that some nights he would wake up with hunger pains when he’d be training for the games. And knowing his Samoan heritage and the people’s propensity to rapid weight gain (due to genetics), he’d resist those hunger pains. Life isn’t fair and the majority of people exercise some extent of discipline and will-power to their vices, even if their genetics may be fighting against them.

I had a BF who would eat an entire 12” cake/2litres of ice cream/dozen donuts etc whenever he got rejected from a casting. Then he’s stop feeling sorry for himself the next day and train nonstop for the next week and work all those calories off and not touch them again— until his next casting call rejection LOL… People that make it a life choice to gorge on that cake/ice cream/donut on a regular basis— and not even move— but just solely blame it on genetics/economics/mentality are pathetic. Many people have their personal demons/handicaps that they struggle through every moment of their lives, and they still fight on. This lazy culture of blaming their vices on everybody else and everything else, including genetics, is what Western society has devolved so quickly into in just the last decade, it’s frankly frightening.

 

[AnaD]

As someone who has been on both sides of the weight spectrum thanks to hormone issues I can say that I definitely feel better when I'm on the lighter side of the scale. Not at all my lowest weight, I felt awful then, but light enough to enjoy running, jumping, heels, etc. When I was heavier everything hurt, my skin was terrible and my hair was falling out. And I wasn't morbidly obese, just 'too big' for me. No one should be aiming to be sickly at any weight, they should be trying to be their best healthy self. Whatever that looks like.

 

[flowergardens]

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E girl fashion

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Cow print pants and shorts. Peak lobotomy behavior and they all will regret it in probably less than a year

 

[AnaD]

Cow print pants and shorts. Peak lobotomy behavior and they all will regret it in probably less than a year

You're probably going to hate this, but my cousin made me a pink and white cow print car coat for my birthday last year. It has silver star buttons. I love it. It's so fab!

 

[dontbeadrag]

The majority of them.

Seeing people chase trends, spend their money on the latest Bottega or the latest Bottega knock off, for it to become obsolete in 1-2 seasons. What I hate the most is that brands promote it via clothes being too advertised and branded (logo, pattern, brand-specific weave and etc.), people buy into it often, then (very often) judge each other by this IRL or on Instagram (you either must expose that Prada logo or have to get those easily identifiable Balenciaga sneakers, otherwise you are branded as fashion-unconscious or poor, like something is wrong with the fact that not everybody can afford everything). Then a lot of such people resell or don't know what to do with those things, because god forbid you wear things from past seasons. Balenciaga runner sock trainers? Lot of people I know have them dusting on their shelves as they accept how embarrassing would be to wear them outside.

People with the best taste I know prefer quiet clothes that don't scream anything, except when they REALLY have their own specific style (one girl is CDG/Rei Kawakubo wearer only, she sticks to that). Being lucky to be born in a well-off family, my mother, a businesswoman, also never buys logo/monogram things, maybe except a tiny Dior pin brooch that has a logo on it. I just learnt that she doesn't need to prove anything to anybody and never gave a damn about a single trend.

All of this comes from my meeting with a friend yesterday, with whom we discussed this, as he works at TSUM and says that people often get the "hottest" things and anything with a logo or Bottega weave sells like hotcakes. We've overheard a conversation next to us, where people were discussing this and judging a woman who walked in with a Jacquemus bag from a couple of seasons ago, and I was appalled.

 

[upNorth]

gifs, originally from doja cat on youtube

Cow print pants and shorts. Peak lobotomy behavior and they all will regret it in probably less than a year

 

[Phuel]

The majority of them.

Seeing people chase trends, spend their money on the latest Bottega or the latest Bottega knock off, for it to become obsolete in 1-2 seasons. What I hate the most is that brands promote it via clothes being too advertised and branded (logo, pattern, brand-specific weave and etc.), people buy into it often, then (very often) judge each other by this IRL or on Instagram (you either must expose that Prada logo or have to get those easily identifiable Balenciaga sneakers, otherwise you are branded as fashion-unconscious or poor, like something is wrong with the fact that not everybody can afford everything). Then a lot of such people resell or don't know what to do with those things, because god forbid you wear things from past seasons. Balenciaga runner sock trainers? Lot of people I know have them dusting on their shelves as they accept how embarrassing would be to wear them outside.

People with the best taste I know prefer quiet clothes that don't scream anything, except when they REALLY have their own specific style (one girl is CDG/Rei Kawakubo wearer only, she sticks to that). Being lucky to be born in a well-off family, my mother, a businesswoman, also never buys logo/monogram things, maybe except a tiny Dior pin brooch that has a logo on it. I just learnt that she doesn't need to prove anything to anybody and never gave a damn about a single trend.

All of this comes from my meeting with a friend yesterday, with whom we discussed this, as he works at TSUM and says that people often get the "hottest" things and anything with a logo or Bottega weave sells like hotcakes. We've overheard a conversation next to us, where people were discussing this and judging a woman who walked in with a Jacquemus bag from a couple of seasons ago, and I was appalled.

Frankly, thank goodness the fashion victimz are in the vast majority (otherwise there wouldn’t be an industry). And thanks to them, I’ll always be reminded what to avoid like THOT.

 

[TNF]

Tucking in your shirt/top/etc in your trousers. I avoid it; I think it's ugly. But it's extremely dominant, and because of that you look immediately out of fashion if you don't join the crowd.

 

[thestylisha]

Trying to blend in is a trend I will never understand. It's especially common among the youth today with buying the same garments influencers showcase in their weekly TikTok hauls. The lack of individuality and creative thought is unsettling.

What's worse is the un-sustainability of it all. With 60 second videos, fast internet has become even faster, and as a consequence, so has fast fashion.

Fast fashion, for most, is the only affordable way to express ourselves, but with the growing desire to buy what everyone else on the internet has, this is hardly the case anymore.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ I’m trying my hardest to be sympathetic… And to to be fair to this generation, because it must be so hard to be an individual in an era where there is such a blatant display of intellectual dishonesty/hypocrisy/socio-political bias: All I see is such a hugely wasteful hustling off of useless, overpriced rags by evermore greedy corporations using race/gender/environment gimmicks to entice (…or guilt) impressionable customers to buying more and more. The industry’s template has become the dreaded slash-and-burn MO of the 1980s: Hyped investment in whomever is fire of the moment. Optimize profit from the least creative effort and risk— then dispose anyone when they’re no longer hot. The days of investing in nurturing and cultivating a talented label is dead. That’s the attitude kidz are being taught by this industry. It’s ruthless.

Add to that, all trends/fads/cliques are so easily accessible via SM without any effort other than to create an account on any of these platforms, I can understand why this generation’s attention span doesn’t even last 15 minutes. To be young and to be an individual is a rarity these days when they’re so mercilessly bombarded by SM celebs all backed by corporate motives— which is such an essential part of their lives and harder to just turn off than suggested. Kidz don’t even think for themselves— let alone be bother with the effort to strike out and think critically, creatively, and research about fashion. Everything is thought out for them, and every style is prepackaged for easy consumption. I don’t know if I would be able to resist such laziness if I were in school… Then again, I don’t think I’d even be interested in this era’s fashion if I were in school LOL

 

[thestylisha]

Everything is thought out for them, and every style is prepackaged for easy consumption. I don’t know if I would be able to resist such laziness if I were in school… Then again, I don’t think I’d even be interested in this era’s fashion if I were in school

What you said about social media making unoriginal fast fashion prepackaged for easy consumption is spot on- that definitely is the case today. And I must admit,I sometimes fall victim to unnecessary, impromptu shopping sprees after being fed hauls from Tiktok consisting of largely affordable, cute, and safe fashion pieces. Sometimes without even thinking if these garments really resonate with my personality and core values. However, I strongly disagree with the notion that this is due to how impressionable we have become.

In most if not in all eras of human history on Earth have there blatant displays of intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy, and/or sociopolitical bias been evident. So it’s hard to say that’s a defining problem of this generation. I do agree that fashion is no longer a mark of originality, or self expression, or even of culture anymore- it is a business and optimising profit from the least creative effort and risk has definitely become a priority. But even still, problems remain. And most of them stem from fast internet and media.

Today, it is so easy for us to log on to Instagram and be bombarded with ideas prepackaged parcels of what we should be wearing and who is wearing it, and for us to be susceptible to these ideas. The speed of fast internet means that we often have little to no time to think for ourselves if we really like something, or whether we should be wearing it because it’s hot right now. As a result, fashion monetises of this constant clicks and revenue and thats sad. Instead of fashion being a form of expressionism, it’s a business. And I think a lot of what fashion has become can be attributed to fast internet.

 

[squilliam]

I agree with hating all the trends. I don't know how to explain it, but the vast majority of clothes I see today I don't like. Everything looks cheap and sloppy, and in some cases deliberately ugly. I'm sick of the crop tops and tight faux bustiers, high waisted skinny jeans, and trends that go out of style in months. Also sick of such poor quality clothes and paper thin materials. Looking at pics from the new Gossip Girl, the clothes are so bland and uninspired compared to the original. I currently don't want to get rid of my old clothes because I wouldn't be able to find nice replacements. Of all the decades to bring back, can we leave the 90s and 00s in the past? Even the decadence of the 80s is never brought back properly. I'd rather see a resurgence of 20s and 30s nowadays. Everything from the 70s up has been overdone. I grew up in the 90s and 00s, I get the nostalgia, but the clothes were bad and bringing them back is not gonna male the world like it was.

Regarding the obesity thing, a lot of it is socioeconomic factors and the quality of the food supply. In the US factory farming and government subsidies have resulted in healthy food being more expensive. Also, low socioeconomic status is correlated with poor health, but that's a topic for another time and place.

 

[fashON]

Although I've hated it for a few years already now, the main thing that I dislike is Fast Fashion. No hate if you're into these brands, but I thoroughly dislike the methods of the likes of Forever 21 and more recently, SHEIN which have saturated the fashion industry quite recently. I've been advocating for sustainable fashions for years already, buying my stuff from thrift shops and other second-hand stores to reduce my footprint knowing full-well how hefty the effects of fabric production can be within the environment.

I've also come to terms with why it has been rapidly growing in the first place. I recently came across this article on Reddit which basically explains how brands automate their sales and marketing process in order to deliver personalized advertisements and well-targeted campaigns. It's a sophisticated marketing ploy that has infected a plethora of social media outlets like TikTok and Instagram which contributes to the "Buying the Trend" sort of phenomenon where there is an upsurge of demand with specific pieces of clothing because of viral media. This ultimately adds to unnecessary waste because of the increase in production, the current set-up of Fashion as a whole is paced on trendiness and no longer on comfort and utility.

Another thing that I thoroughly despise with the current trends is the "who can make it cheaper" concept. Where larger brands tend to rip off the designs of independent makers and designers. This is an absolute insult to those who work hard in their craft only for a trendy brand (yes, I am talking about SHEIN again) to take their design and monetize off of it. It's unsettling.

 

[Fulton St Critique]

Although I've hated it for a few years already now, the main thing that I dislike is Fast Fashion. No hate if you're into these brands, but I thoroughly dislike the methods of the likes of Forever 21 and more recently, SHEIN which have saturated the fashion industry quite recently. I've been advocating for sustainable fashions for years already, buying my stuff from thrift shops and other second-hand stores to reduce my footprint knowing full-well how hefty the effects of fabric production can be within the environment.

I've also come to terms with why it has been rapidly growing in the first place. I recently came across this article on Reddit which basically explains how brands automate their sales and marketing process in order to deliver personalized advertisements and well-targeted campaigns. It's a sophisticated marketing ploy that has infected a plethora of social media outlets like TikTok and Instagram which contributes to the "Buying the Trend" sort of phenomenon where there is an upsurge of demand with specific pieces of clothing because of viral media. This ultimately adds to unnecessary waste because of the increase in production, the current set-up of Fashion as a whole is paced on trendiness and no longer on comfort and utility.

Another thing that I thoroughly despise with the current trends is the "who can make it cheaper" concept. Where larger brands tend to rip off the designs of independent makers and designers. This is an absolute insult to those who work hard in their craft only for a trendy brand (yes, I am talking about SHEIN again) to take their design and monetize off of it. It's unsettling.

You know I really struggle with this issue. This concept that fast fashion has all of the sudden brokered in an uncontrollable force that is destroying fashion from the inside out seems questionable to me to say the least. Of course the waste issue and unsustainable methods of creation is concerning. Add to that the harsh and downright inhuman workplaces that produce said items. There are several great documentaries on YouTube that speak to both the harsh environmental and brutal consequences of production that arise from such fast fashion. The rate of consumption of disposable clothing is astonishing given the statistics.

With that being said before I had the luxury and privilege of purchasing what is deemed “high fashion” (Most on a discounted basis) I could only afford such fast fashion pieces. To believe that society- the 99% at large- should congregate and adopt a status of nearly all purchases being that of vintage or second hand shopping seems illogical given many factors including- location, income level, and accessibility. For those living outside of London, LA, NYC, Paris, and other great metropolitan areas this idea is far fetched given the limited capacity of stores to house enough quality goods to support the demand. I was visiting a friend recently and checked out a couple of thrift shops near her house and quality aside, the pieces were downright unattractive and unkept, though that is an issue in and of itself.

I remember watching a Kanye West video- let it be known I am not a fan of Yeezy or whatever he is doing with GAP at the moment- where he discussed this idea of making fashionable, quality items more accessible to the masses. I find what Uniqlo is doing fascinating. I purchased a top from the Jil Sander collection this Fall and while the quality does not match that of her previous work under her eponymous label, it will hold up for many years to come thanks to the commendable quality. For those shoppers interested in style and expressing themselves through what they see on runways and in editorial campaigns, fast fashion provides that almost instantly. After all, to me that is a major part of what this concept of “Fashion” is. I remember walking into a Forever 21 once, mind you this is when Hedi Slimane was still using the skinny silhouette, and found a pair of jeans that matched his style exactly. Being a student I could not afford the $1,000 pair in the SL store, so I chose the $20 dollar pair because it fit my budget. Call me crazy and remove me from this forum for such an act, but living in a students reality forces you to make such decisions.

So while I too believe fast fashion and the resulting infrastructure should be altered- personally I believe governments should work to heavily regulate it- there does exist a need within society to have clothing and accessories readily available and at a more reasonable price point. As fashion grows more democratic and inclusion seemingly every hour, perhaps the rising generation will find ways to change the system once and for all.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ Best of faith with expecting this younger generation to change the ways of the exploitive fast-fashion system LOL Aside from the overwhelming majority of so-called activism is hugely on-trend based (on the “activist” becoming popular/famous on SM platforms), the attention-span of so-called activism is hardly dedicated to beyond the echo chambers of any cesspool SM platform. (It’s still hilarious to me that the celebrity “activism” of someone like Pedro Pascal snatched some random shot of Mexican children detained behind bars alongside concentration camp prisoners of the Holocaust [ of which BTW, is such a grossly inappropriate comparison] as a drag of Trump. Of course he was hugely applauded: But when the shot of the Mexican children was revealed to be one from the Obama administration, it was met with such silence in hopes that such carelessness and sloppy virtue-signalling would be quickly forgotten LOL)

People in general will “support” the activism of dismantling the sweatshop-factory production of fast-fashion. Ask them again if instead of paying $20USD for that pair of jeans— they may just have to pay $40USD now, and they may change their minds (at least in practice if not in SM virtue-signalling… And many won’t even realize that these “sweatshop” factory jobs are the only ones that someone can get to support not just themselves, but their entire family to have some semblance of a decent live in the Third World. But yes, go ahead and protest in the comfort of their condos paid for by mum and dad on their MacBook Airs (LOL) to dismantle the only form of “sustainable” livelihood for millions of people in these countries. What is convincibly such an evil to many in the First World is ultimately a necessary evil for millions in the Third World. You know, when someone is simply grateful to have an income to support their family, it’s hard for them to find their given wages exploitively low or that their job is contributing to the harm of the environment.

And I’ve mentioned this before and I’m comfortable living by it: I’ve made peace with that part of me that will unreasonably pine and covet for some ridiculously-overpriced piece of clothing that serves absolutely no purpose there than to satisfy my own vanity and even ego. None of us need anything designer and we’re really not better people for being able to own and wear it instead of fast-fashion. Buying into this world of designerwear is no different than those casually buying and wearing fast-fashion: We’re all insatiable consumers of vanity.