Emanuele Farneti Departs Vogue Italia as EIC

[JPineapple]

The Imperial Editor Goes the Way of the Dodo

In this article they say Alt is ALREADY gone. Is that true?

Does Vanessa have some kind of feud with CN? Because everytime I read her articles about CN/Vogue/Anna, i find her bitter, and bitter, and bitter… or is just my perception?

 

[MON]

^ I don't find her bitter

Nonetheless, I just think that her headlines and articles reek of sensationalism. Controversial headlines are used to cover up the fact that the piece itself lacks substance. Most of the time I find myself zoning out while reading her articles. And sometimes I find myself saying "that's it?"

I've read better criticisms/informative opinions here than those articles.

It's a vicious cycle for these writers tbh. It's cool to rip Anna to shreds now and to clamor for change, but when Anna steps down and a new EIC takes the helm, the dust will settle and it won't be soon before long that these same writers rip the successor to shreds for far more trivial matters.

*******

I hope a replacement is appointed. The prospect of a Global editor and no one running the magazine on the ground just makes me anxious. Not a sound business judgment.

 

[penny609]

I hope a replacement is appointed. The prospect of a Global editor and no one running the magazine on the ground just makes me anxious. Not a sound business judgment.

Unfortunately and I don't wanna sound like... whatever dark it can be... but this seems what we're leaning towards. Much unfortunately.

I had a wicked dream once. That all the sh*t happening nowadays would lead to a electric kick that would boost creativity and so on. Obviously, i was just wet-dreaming...

 

[Velasco]

I hope a replacement is appointed. The prospect of a Global editor and no one running the magazine on the ground just makes me anxious. Not a sound business judgment.

OK, I was wondering what Farneti meant by stating Vogue was going “global”. Haven’t been following the business end of Vogue. Yikes.

 

[MON]

OK, I was wondering what Farneti meant by stating Vogue was going “global”. Haven’t been following the business end of Vogue. Yikes.

Vogue editors are "leaving" one after the other and it seems that no replacement will be hired. This on top of the fact that several key appointments were made for "Regional" editorial directors: Anna as the Global Editor, Edward for Europe, Leslie for Asia-Pacific (China not included). So it seems that deputy editors will run it from the ground while they report to the global/regional editorial directors. Also, it is worth to note that editions will have "collaborative" aka shared content.

Unfortunately and I don't wanna sound like... whatever dark it can be... but this seems what we're leaning towards. Much unfortunately.

I agree. I'm anticipating that by next year (at the earliest), editions will be consolidated into regional Vogues. Vogue Europe, Vogue Asia/Asia-Pacific on top of US Vogue, UK Vogue and Vogue China. This view, imho, is supported by the removal of the EICs. The message is clear: we don't need an EIC because their vision and direction are no longer needed since everything is regionalized. What CN needs are staff who will oversee implementation. AKA redundancy at the top-most level.

I won't be surprised if in 10 years' time, there will only be 1 edition in existence.

The industry is dying. COVID expedited everything.

 

[penny609]

^This is very true, once again, unfortunately...

But will the core reader follow (not sure) and will the ocasional reader follow (not sure as well)...

Truth is they're losing grip. And not trying to find it back. Sad.

 

[VBE]

Am I by myself in believing that there were far to many editions of Vogue and consolidation is long overdue? Vogue US and UK always were the two editions that made money. That money allowed the arguably more “artistic” and fashioned centric editions to exist. I’m old enough to remember when there were only 4 Vogue editions and 2 of those were always on the brink of being put out of business. If I may be even more frank, the current zeitgeist combined with rapidly changing way consumers consume information is forcing the fashion industry to get back to basics.

 

[penny609]

Please, forgive my heart and my blind beliefs...

 

[ivano]

My last hope is that Edward will bring more creativity and glamour to VI and diversity to VP. But please, I would hate celebrities on the cover of both every month. Anyone knows if he's behind Spanish Vogue now? A mexican cast director told me months ago that Vogue Mexico & Latin America is attached to the British team. This was when the VP rumors started in February, but I didn't understad well what he said at the time.

 

[JohannesL]

Does Vanessa have some kind of feud with CN? Because everytime I read her articles about CN/Vogue/Anna, i find her bitter, and bitter, and bitter… or is just my perception?

She is like Cathy Horyn back in the day! LOL, both of them are working for the so-called most prestigious newspaper of the world and they seem to be in the more intellectual gang of fashion journalism. But I feel that very few people really care about their opinions nowadays.

 

[dontbeadrag]

Am I by myself in believing that there were far to many editions of Vogue and consolidation is long overdue?

Preach. I wish 90% of European Vogue editions would close down, they are all carbon copies of each other now - Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Portugal… I’d really not hate the idea of VI, VP and some Vogue Europe for everybody else. They better put the extra money into 3 great editions instead of 294838 cr*p ones.

At that, I’d also love for 95% of useless brands to shut down too, but that is not in Condé Nast power…

Fashion needs some serious cleaning.

 

[tigerrouge]

Just think of how much money we'll save in the near future by not having to buy magazines which contain endless reprints of the same uninspired content.

 

[artemovartem]

I’m glad he’s fired. But I always get scared when I see “Emmanuelle, Vogue, EIC” in the ‘New Posts’. #justiceforalt

Btw, Vogue Europe is really happening?

 

[Benn98]

My last hope is that Edward will bring more creativity and glamour to VI and diversity to VP. But please, I would hate celebrities on the cover of both every month. Anyone knows if he's behind Spanish Vogue now? A mexican cast director told me months ago that Vogue Mexico & Latin America is attached to the British team. This was when the VP rumors started in February, but I didn't understad well what he said at the time.

Que. But you speak Spanish how could you not have understood what he said?

Anyway, I think it pretty much stands to reason that Edward will oversee VS. They are still run by CN, no?
I wonder if it won't be better for him to oversee VI in the meantime because Francesca? Uhm, no. She couldn't even style a proper editorial yet now she'll be running a magazine?

It's funny when you think of it. I'm sure EE would've wanted the VI job when he was at W.
And now it's open, but he can't have it because it's in CN's interest to keep him at UK Vogue. For now...

Katie Grand eyeing all these job openings like...

Giphy

 

[ivano]

Que. But you speak Spanish how could you not have understood what he said?

Anyway, I think it pretty much stands to reason that Edward will oversee VS. They are still run by CN, no?
I wonder if it won't be better for him to oversee VI in the meantime because Francesca? Uhm, no. She couldn't even style a proper editorial yet now she'll be running a magazine?

It's funny when you think of it. I'm sure EE would've wanted the VI job when he was at W.
And now it's open, but he can't have it because it's in CN's interest to keep him at UK Vogue. For now...

Katie Grand eyeing all these job openings like...

Giphy

Because it was the start of these rumors, and I never knew that British Vogue's team was behind Karla. Also the guy was flirting with me, but that's another story, hahaha. But he's a cool guy, mexicans are so cute and charming.

But I still don't understand why an European edition is working for the regional Vogue. Latin America is not related to their contents and culture the most.

 

[Xone]

Does Vanessa have some kind of feud with CN? Because everytime I read her articles about CN/Vogue/Anna, i find her bitter, and bitter, and bitter… or is just my perception?

A little bit...i think she expected to be a figure like Cathy Horyn but her articles are not in a good level...i don't know if bitter is the word but there is something with her and CN...maybe Anna never hired her or offered something, i don't know....but there is something....and honestly if u see her interact, she is the kind of fashion person that could stab you in the back...anyway...

 

[Xone]

Preach. I wish 90% of European Vogue editions would close down, they are all carbon copies of each other now - Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Portugal… I’d really not hate the idea of VI, VP and some Vogue Europe for everybody else. They better put the extra money into 3 great editions instead of 294838 cr*p ones.

At that, I’d also love for 95% of useless brands to shut down too, but that is not in Condé Nast power…

Fashion needs some serious cleaning.

yeah but they need the money from the licenses....in terms of contents yes all of them should consolidated in one Vogue Europe and each country can contribute with their regional contents to satisfy their markets. But they need to keep them for that reason...Honestly i would leave the top 4 Vogue alive, plus China and Plus Japan... all the rest Vogue Asia. Latam and Brazil needed to be different because of the language but even....and Mexico and Latam even they share the language one is north hemisphere and the other south...so seasons inverse....Vogue Australia should stay too if the market is big enough to compensate or could be part of Vogue Europe like Eurovision...about Middle East there is only Vogue Arabia (that no ones is gonna touch because of the amount of money people have there) and Turkey (which im not sure if it would be part in the Asian edition)....

They just need to follow the biggest markets...if money it's what they want.

But i agree it's not a bad thing to have less Vogue's but just keep alive the right ones...for me is an insult to stop Vogue paris being France what it is for Fashion...

Anyway, still the good news is that Farneti is out, now it's turn of Ferdinando to say goodbye....

 

[JohannesL]

A little bit...i think she expected to be a figure like Cathy Horyn

I agree that Vanessa's articles are generally lacking depths and substances when comparing with Horyn. But back in the days, critics like Suzy Menkes and Cathy Horyn were holding some authorities and designers paid attention to their opinions. I doubt if designers still care about Vanessa's or other critics opinion nowadays, but I do miss the days when critics spoke some truths even they play their favourites. We need fashion editors and please don't forget that we also need fashion critics with integrities!

 

[AFWQ]

European Vogues merge in to a regional vogue, it would hardly focus in other countries than - Italy, France, UK and Spain. Let's be real!
Also it wouldn't make no sense. This issue wouldn't represent all cultures in Europe, wouldn't be translated for all languages that exist in Europe - or even ones who have Vogue titles at this moment. It would be in English.

Specially with Edward Enninful who is EIC of one of titles as 'supervisor". Just because Edward has given some of more glamour aspect to Vogue UK, it basically is small sister from Vogue US which I don't find it positive. Just on cover of European Vogue will be celebrities on most of months.

Just because all these countries are part of continent, it doesn't mean we all speak same language or are able to read english. It wouldn't represent at all the cultural diversity exists in europe.

And I think more and more, with changes Conde Nast is doing we hardly are being able to distinguish any of Vogue titles. In which I think is understandable why to some members of forum it would make sense merge, being lack of differences.

Which with all changes, how much alike Vogue has became, I don't think at all Vogue Italia would became better with Farnetti depart.

 

[tigerrouge]

and please don't forget that we also need fashion critics with integrities!

But integrity or balanced reporting doesn't pay the bills. Sensationalism or pandering does.